New Zealand

 

Sent: 28 February 2001   From: Rae Watson

Subject: Parles in New Zealand

Hi Mike,

My mum is the one doing most of the research down here in NZ but I help out when I can particularly with the web stuff. I live in the north of NZ and it has been hot and raining for about three weeks now driving everyone a little nuts. We have a farm here and have been following the foot and mouth thing in your part of the world, our hearts go out to you up there what a terrible time it must be for everyone.

On a brighter note here's about all I know for sure

Brief run down:

My Dad: Robin James Parle B 12.2.34 D. 12.10.92 m. Marie Gunter on 25.2.56 Four Kids: - Rae, Graeme, Sue & Ross

Grandad: Hector Thomas B 12.1.1900 D. 14.6.87 m. Stella Enerson on 4.12.26 Two Boys: Jack and Robin.  Hector came to NZ about 1920

His Dad: John B. 1863-1865 D 14.4.49 m. Minnie Lea on 5.2.1893.  As far as we know John and Minnie had 3 Kids William, Queenie (possibly nickname?) and Thomas (Hector)

John's death cert. signed by A Byrne (daughter?)

Minnie's death cert. was signed by E.W. Parle (son?)

John and Minnies Marriage cert signed by: A. Parle.

We know Johns father's name was William and it is about here that things get pretty cloudy. One train of thought goes with a marriage cert. For William Parle married Ann Corish on 22-9-1861 in Liverpool but we always believed John was an Irishman so who knows?

So Mike, that’s about the size of it from here. There are other Parles living in Christchurch NZ but we have been unable to establish a link with them as relatives.

All the best

Rae

P.S: you made mention of Judy in your email to Christine has something happened to her? Is that why I never heard anymore about her compilation?

 

Sent: 28 February 2001 – Reply from Mike Parle

Rae,

So nice to get your e-mail.

As I have a niece (on my wife's side - Nangle) Roisin Kilcoyne who has just gone to New Zealand, what is your exact address in the North Island?

On your Parle antecedents’ do you have a geographical connection you can identify? Was it County Wexford?

Please say a prayer on the foot & mouth disease that it stays out of the Republic of Ireland. Earlier today it was announced that a farm in South Armagh, in the 6 counties of Northern Ireland have identified a suspect farm. Up to yesterday the disease was confined to England and Wales. It looks very bad. If South Armagh is confirmed positive it means that the epidemic is only a few miles from our border.

The rugby International on Sat in Cardiff V Wales was postponed yesterday. All horse racing has been halted for a minimum of 7 days, and is likely to lead to the cancellation of the annual major meeting in Cheltenham. Our country like yours depends on the food industry. So if we are hit our economy will be poleaxed. Please say a prayer that it can avoid us. After us pray for the poor farmers in England and Wales.

They have been devastated over the past week with one horrific announcement following the next.

With regard to Judy Parle, I understand from Christine nee Parle Brown in Leeds, England via John Patrick Parle in Pontiac, Michigan that she is extremely ill.

God bless

Mike

 

5.03.2001,  Rae Watson (nee Parle), Whangarei, NZ

Hi Mike

Thanks for your letter

We think we may have a Wexford connection but have been unable to find anything for certain.

I see from Cameron that there were Parles went to Dublin as well, perhaps that is worth a look?

It would be great to connect with someone coming from the other way with info that would gel with ours as I am certain I must have cousins up that way somewhere.

My Granddad Hector Thomas was born in London but we think from words passed on that his dad was Irish.

All the best for now

Rae

 

18.03.2001

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the St Patrick’s recipes et al. Great to get your history.

Got Mum and I all fired up again and she spent yesterday at LDS in Hamilton chasing a few leads.

Turns out that Hector, Thomas' brother was Edward William and was born at Islington (London) in 1896 and his sister Annie born Islington 1893 which would indicate to me that we may still have relatives living in England. However I am still keen to go back further and find the Irish connection.

Mum and I are planning a trip to your fair shores in the spring of 2002, so I am really looking forward to that, and may even get to meet you then

All the best

Rae

 

27.4.2001 From Rae Watson to Mike Parle

Hi Mike,

Greetings

Please find following a posting I put on the Parle site a few days ago. No one has answered apart from John Patrick to see how I got on. Do you think you could send it out to your mailing list for me. I guess you talk to people who don’t check out e-groups

How goes life with you and yours?

Have not heard from your niece (Roisin Kilcoyne) at all but we spent the last weekend with my Mum and she may be more central and would love to see her if she passes Hamilton (80 miles south of Auckland).

Her phone number is (07) 855 4423 and her name is Marie Parle. If you are in touch with Roisin please pass that on as well as ours.

Winter is coming very quickly here and while we live in the so-called winterless north we have had a fire going these last two nights. How goes the info gathering I await each posting with interest

I was very sorry to hear today about Judy Parle passing on. It will be a huge loss to the Parle delving clan.

All the best for now Mike

Rae

 

Attachment: from Rae

Hey guys, I need help.

I have been perusing every Parle piece of info I can find on the web for years now but have yet to see a link to any of my predecessors.

My mum and I have decided to visit the Northern Hemisphere next spring and are very keen to see if we can track down some Parles while we are in England and Ireland.

We are aware that we need to have some info before we come, but have come to a blank. As far as my great granddad's birth we can find no trace, partly because while family chatter would indicate he was born in Ireland we have yet to prove that.

My grandad Thomas came to New Zealand in 1920 aged twenty and left behind in London a sister: Annie born 1893; Brother: William Edward born 1896; Mother Minnie (nee Lea) and dad named John who was a tram conductor. John's father's name was William (a Commercial Clerk) but that is where we come unstuck.

We have gleaned this much from birth marriage, and death certificates, but have nearly exhausted all local, LDS and library sources of info over the last three years.

Does any of this mean anything to anyone as I am sure I will have cousins at least in London but would love to go much further and link into the Irish part which I am sure exists somewhere.

I have been in touch with some of you on a more one to one basis but this is my first venture into the whole deal so please if you know even the tiniest thing - call

All the best to Parles everywhere,

Regards

Rae Watson (nee Parle)

 

27.4.2001 Reply from Mike Parle to Rae nee Parle Watson

Re: Tracing Your English Parle Ancestors

Rae,

Re: Your recent note I trust that the following is a fair summary of your research data gleaned to date:

"have come to a blank as far as my great granddad's birth (John Parle B.1863-1865 D 14.4.49) of which we can find no trace, partly because while family chatter would indicate he was born in Ireland (might be Wexford?) we have yet to prove that.

My grandad Thomas Parle (Hector Thomas) came to New Zealand in 1920 aged twenty (born 1900) and left behind in London a sister: Annie born Islington 1893; Brother: William Edward born Islington 1896;

His mother Minnie (nee Lea) and dad named John Parle who was a tram conductor.

John's father's name was William Parle (a Commercial Clerk) but that is where we come unstuck.

We have gleaned this much from birth marriage, and death certificates but have nearly exhausted all local, LDS and library sources of info over the last three years"

The previous information you sent in summary was:

"My Dad: Robin James Parle (John) B 12.2.34 D. 12.10.92 m. Marie Gunter on 25.2.56 Four Kids- Rae, Graeme, Sue & Ross
Grandad: Hector Thomas Parle B 12.1.1900 D. 14.6.87 m. Stella Enerson on 4.12.26 Two Boys Jack and Robin.  Hector came to NZ about 1920
His Dad : John Parle B.1863-1865 D 14.4.49 m. Minnie Lea on 5.2.1893 as far as we know John and Minnie had 3 Kids William, Queenie (possibly nickname?) and Thomas (Hector,)
His Father: William Parle - Born circa 1840's? (Time of Ireland's Great Famine that caused mass death and widespread emigration)
John's death cert signed by A Byrne (daughter?)
Minnie's death Cert was signed by E.W. Parle (son?)
John and Minnies Marriage cert signed by: A. Parle
We know Johns father's name was William and it is about here that things get pretty cloudy. One train of thought goes with a marriage cert for William Parle married Ann Corish on 22-9-1861 in Liverpool, but we always believed John was an Irishman so who knows?"

The article below may be of interest and assistance based on your recent e-mail?

Good luck with your quest.

My recent letters to the French Embassy and Belgian Embassy in Dublin regarding the alleged Cherbourg, Normandy France and Flanders Belgium origins of Parle knights (Flemish mercenaries in 1169 Cambro-Norman Invasion of Ireland) beginning to get some responses.

Mike

 

6.6.2001 From Rae Watson to JP and Mike

Subject: Griffith Valuation

Hello Mike and John Patrick,

Thank you both. I got both copies Great Stuff.

I have my Mum, Marie Parle up from Hamilton as she has not long finished a course of Radiotherapy on her throat and the holes where her thyroids resided last year.

She seems well and we are positive towards a full recovery. Very worrying times she is only 64 a lot of years expected yet.

However, hence my lack of correspondence. Please don’t stop sending it. I read it all. I just don’t have a lot to offer towards it.

Mum and I have been discussing our plan to go to London and Ireland sometime around April next year. I am trusting she will be well and those Englishmen have finished bashing each other.

New Zealand does seem so wonderfully peaceful and safe sometimes. I plan to be heading south to drop Marie off at a bus closer to her house; and on the way we are doing the family room at Auckland Public Library. Apparently it is quite well equipped but I wonder if they have ever had a Parle - P A R L E visit before. Do you find you always have to spell it?????

Well thanks guys keep up the good work.

Mike it sounds as if you have been holidaying. Is this Saltees??? (Inset: The Saltee Islands)

I have a strong connection with the sea and wonder if those Parles were part of my lot however I abhor the cold so it does not seem likely.

Enough prattle, Cheers chaps

Rae

 

 

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